Kris, I know you mean well and like to stir up debate but I think especially for the sake of productive discussion it might be a good idea to avoid over-simplifying and polarizing the issues in this manner on these polls. The trails issue, particularly, is not an "either-or" situation. I prefer to leave technical elements in trails wherever possible, HOWEVER that also does not preclude *responsible* maintenance to stabilize mud holes, prevent erosion, etc. I think the whole "you're doing it wrong" mentality of divisive trail debate here in the Front Range completely glosses over the fact that it is no longer 1985. There is too much traffic, too much user conflict, too much pressure from administrations who perceive MTB use to be "the problem", and too much wear and tear on the trails in general (regardless of who's causing it) to just "let them evolve naturally". The demands of local government and user needs require a sensible middle ground approach.
It's not okay to advocate the kind of wild-west DIY mentality that accepts poaching and eroded-out social trails anymore. It presents the wrong impression of cycling, perpetuates bad dialogue, and beyond that, those days are long gone in this region. That being said, I absolutely DO NOT agree with building Valmont Park in the middle of the woods either. I don't like the fact that Heil Ranch is becoming a watered-down, over-built resort simulacrum. That's also not an acceptable solution. We need to work together with advocacy groups like BMA, land use administration and IMBA trail building specialists to figure out what the right compromise is.
I'm not trying to over simplify this topic as there is little I know or understand of this topic and just learned of "trail sanitation" last week. Maybe you'd like to be a guest author on 303 and provide some greater insight to this situation. Hit is up at info@303cycling.com
here, this MTBR Front Range Forum thread neatly sums up the entire argument and all the various nuances in one tidy space. These guys have been battling this topic back and forth ever since BoCo and the Forest Service got more proactive / aggressive about trail maintenance (early-mid 2000s).
I know some think this poll is flawed but the generalization is very interesting one and one that I believe should be discussed further. If anyone would like to submit a article on this please contact us (info at 303cycling.com)
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Kris, I know you mean well
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Kris, I know you mean well and like to stir up debate but I think especially for the sake of productive discussion it might be a good idea to avoid over-simplifying and polarizing the issues in this manner on these polls. The trails issue, particularly, is not an "either-or" situation. I prefer to leave technical elements in trails wherever possible, HOWEVER that also does not preclude *responsible* maintenance to stabilize mud holes, prevent erosion, etc. I think the whole "you're doing it wrong" mentality of divisive trail debate here in the Front Range completely glosses over the fact that it is no longer 1985. There is too much traffic, too much user conflict, too much pressure from administrations who perceive MTB use to be "the problem", and too much wear and tear on the trails in general (regardless of who's causing it) to just "let them evolve naturally". The demands of local government and user needs require a sensible middle ground approach.
It's not okay to advocate the kind of wild-west DIY mentality that accepts poaching and eroded-out social trails anymore. It presents the wrong impression of cycling, perpetuates bad dialogue, and beyond that, those days are long gone in this region. That being said, I absolutely DO NOT agree with building Valmont Park in the middle of the woods either. I don't like the fact that Heil Ranch is becoming a watered-down, over-built resort simulacrum. That's also not an acceptable solution. We need to work together with advocacy groups like BMA, land use administration and IMBA trail building specialists to figure out what the right compromise is.
Points: 0
Over simplifying is due to ignorance
Submitted by Kris Thompson on
I'm not trying to over simplify this topic as there is little I know or understand of this topic and just learned of "trail sanitation" last week. Maybe you'd like to be a guest author on 303 and provide some greater insight to this situation. Hit is up at info@303cycling.com
Kris
Points: 2
here, this MTBR Front Range
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
here, this MTBR Front Range Forum thread neatly sums up the entire argument and all the various nuances in one tidy space. These guys have been battling this topic back and forth ever since BoCo and the Forest Service got more proactive / aggressive about trail maintenance (early-mid 2000s).
http://forums.mtbr.com/colorado-front-range/new-trail-reroute-hall-ranch...
Points: 0
I'm not sure what the MTBR forum is trying to say
Submitted by Kris Thompson on
Sounds like the same story, don't sanitize the trails.
Points: 1
Thanks to all commenting and voting....
Submitted by Kris Thompson on
I know some think this poll is flawed but the generalization is very interesting one and one that I believe should be discussed further. If anyone would like to submit a article on this please contact us (info at 303cycling.com)
Kris
Points: 0