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  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   1 min 49 sec ago

    Wow, talk about Enid obnoxiousness, did you read your last sentence?

  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   20 min 9 sec ago

    Even in the comments, it's more snide obnoxiousness than real thought.

    Cyclocross doesn't need to be a "fringe" sport, and isn't trying to be. In case you haven't stayed to watch a race in the last couple years, there are basically 4 "groups" of spectators: racers waiting to race (or rejoicing they are finished), families and friends of those racers (including small children like my girls who are 4 and 6), "community members" (vendors, shops, fans of the sport), and people who came to see what all the tents and caution tape are doing at the local park. These people make the race fun. If you don't believe me, skip the races this weekend, go somewhere there isn't a race, and try to replicate the experience alone on the course.

    If you take the carnival experience away from cyclocross, you essentially are killing what brings new blood to this sport - the spectacle that attracts people to stay and cheer all day for people they (mostly) don't know. But a carnival isn't a riot. Spectators should be respectful of the sport (and heckling is, in it's own way, respectful of the sport until it's personally insulting). Like anything, if you wouldn't like someone saying (or doing) it to you, don't do it to someone else (but if your mom swears like a sailor, that's not an excuse).

    The elements that make 'cross fun for spectators make it fun for non-elite racers (and probably elites too) - and don't require idiocy. Standing on the top of the hill offering hand ups of beer or bacon doesn't detract from the sport. But standing (or leaning) inside the course throwing things at the racers does. If you can't see the inherent difference in these two things, maybe you should go back to kindergarden and re-learn your basic socialization skills.

  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   1 hour 16 min ago

    Just because you have a number on your back doesn't mean you are mentally committed like the pros are, inversely like in a bike tour some are taking the "tour" very seriously and are going to win it. If you don't want bacon while racing than don't take it and those offering should be shoving it in your face. Lets not discourage the festive atmosphere, just bring it to an acceptable level.

  • Reply to: 15mph is Safe and Courteous   1 hour 31 min ago

    If only Boulder were a norm.

  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   2 hours 49 min ago
  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   11 hours 18 min ago

    It's our own fault, trying to promote 'cross as a fringe sport that welcomes crazy behavior from the riders (particularly the riders in the lower classes, many of whom are just out for a good time and don't care too much where they place), and then we get our knickers all bunched up when we slowly transition from good, clean fun to hooliganism on the part of the fans.

    If we expect 'cross to be a competitive, RESPECTED sport, we really, really need to dial back on the BS, the beer and/or bacon handups, the heckling, and most importantly, dousing riders with beer. Don't recall the author, but read an article sometime in the last few days where it was pointed out that if you're stopping for a beer, you're not really racing and in the pro/elite ranks, there's no place for it.

    We can't have it both ways, either we're fringe or we're not.

  • Reply to: Coffee Talk - Spectator Etiquette   12 hours 33 min ago

    So can you spray beer on cyclocross people if they are wearing a costume of some sort?

    Obviously you do not want to spray folks in skinsuits, as that will compromise the aerodynamics, which is important when you are riding through mud at 12mph.

    Also, if the rider's name has a 'Van' in it, they are probably very 'famous athletes' (in holland) and should not be sprayed.

  • Reply to: 2014 - Boulder Cup   23 hours 43 min ago

    thats a team out of SLC.

  • Reply to: 15mph is Safe and Courteous   1 day 15 hours ago

    I had to read this a few times. Is it just me?