Interview with Without Limits co-owner about recent Timing issues at races
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This evening we visit with Without Limits co-owner Lance Panigutti. Topic of discussion is going to be the controversial timing issues that occurred during the Morgul Bismark event last May. Without Limits holds a standard of excellence that was compromised, hear all the behind the scenes details and full story. Lance will address these issues and more.
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Is there a like button!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Is there a like button! Looking forward to Morgul 2013
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Very refreshing to hear
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Very refreshing to hear somebody that actually knows whats going on!
So what does ACA offer for $2.50 a rider? If a good timing company is used, what need is there for USAC/ACA Officials at Cross Races?
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upgrade points
Submitted by kung fu panda (not verified) on
that's about it
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insurance
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
a portion of the surcharge goes to supplementary insurance.
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Nope. There is a separate
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Nope. There is a separate $3.00 insurance surcharge that goes to USAC insurance program. Bike Race Insurance, outside of USAC, is readily available.
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There is cheaper bike racing
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
There is cheaper bike racing insurance readily available, the question: is the aca still needed? Why can't a promoter simply sanction with usa cycling, schedule their own ref's to come work the race, moto's if needed, and buy their own race #'s. Other sports do it without the help of a local association.
Racers would only have one license to worry about, and promoters wouldn't get hit with the extra fees. In a perfect world racers would only have one license that covers all disciplines under usac, USAC would better financially support the LA's and their JR development programs.
I guess that's just a pipedream though.
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Insurance costs $3/rider/day
Submitted by Andy Bohlmann (not verified) on
Insurance costs $3/rider/day if BRAC or straight USAC. Same policy.
Tour of Vail is going BRACless and I would consider doing the same. It just depends.
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To enforce rules. If there is
Submitted by VelvetSamarai (not verified) on
To enforce rules. If there is an incident during a race like illegally cutting corners, avoiding barriers, if someone is being a d-bag, questionable equipment, sandbagging, rule interpretation, course inspection, etc.
Here's an example. At last years CX States race the course was mismarked. Several girls cut out a big portion of the race while many were stuck way-way back doing it right. It was decided that the race be restarted even though the girls who cut the course (not their fault) were upset. The chief ref made a tough but right call.
Aren't ref's mandated by the USAC? If so, the ACA is required to use them and pay for them or pay to support them.
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I'm impressed with how
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I'm impressed with how progressive Lance & Tony are, looking to improve and expand and deliver features that racers want. I usually hate listening to interviews (prefer reading) but this was worth listening to. Interesting to hear how expensive a GOOD timing system really is ($2K - $4K/race).
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