How law abiding is your Group ride

Not very
13%
Some what
29%
Most of the time
55%
Always!
4%
Total votes: 77

7 Comments

courtesy/law adherence

I have found that giving drivers a left-hand wave (and sometimes a smile) after passing me or our group safely, knowing that they have slowed or moved a little left to make a safe pass, makes for a positive gesture that translates the concept of road sharing and illustrates an adherence to the laws of the road to everybody present in a non-verbal way. Mouthing a 'thank you' when cars wait to make a turn in front of me is the least I can do in gratitude for them not taking me out.

The occasional prompts to the group of "car back/single up/move right" without intensity or anger leads to a better dynamic without 'wagging the finger'- good adherence becomes the norm.

Last week during an established training ride I hung back to query a guy that frequently participates in this ride (with an i-pod......let that one go for now), asking him why he tended to stay in the middle of the lane when there obviously was a car back and others had moved over. He remarked that he 'tries to share the road when able to' whatever that means. I let him know that we would appreciate better compliance with accomodating the cars since his inactions are getting them pissed at all of us. No anger, just the facts.....hope it helped.

In terms of stoplights/stop signs we tend to adhere to the Idaho standard of 'if it looks okay to continue safely after slowing, go ahead' as opposed to 'all clear, sprint it!' Big intersections? Single up, unclip, stay right, etc.

Having lived in downtown denver, commuted for years and participated in heated encounters with cars that make me shake my head now (a cyclist was shot and killed in front of Matt's shop at 9th and Broadway one summer!), I find that TWO fingers and a smile go much further when drivers get upset....keeps me blood pressure down, too. Plus, if I do screw up and piss-off that hothead I mouth 'sorry/thank you' or whatever which helps to diffuse

Be safe, campers. Ride to live another day.....

ps. JOIN Bicycle Colorado, IMBA, Leauge of American Bicyclists-these are our advocates-they make it happen on the government level which is OUR voice. ACT nice out there.

ALWAYS Law Abiding?

The only response I tend to disbelieve in the survey are the 4% that claim to always be law abiding. Even if that's their intent, it's not possible. For example, in a group of 12 do all of them stop individually and then proceed individually through a stop sign, or do they stop as a group and go through as a group? Legally those could be very different approaches, I doubt that cars would be allowed to do that.

I really like crispi's comments. Emphasis on courtesy to drivers in numerous small ways to foster better car/bike relations, but recognition that perfection in adhering to all laws is neither possible nor necessary. I wish we had the Idaho law here as well, it makes so much more sense.

Again, I'm not advocating blatantly unlawful and dangerous riding, just asserting the practical reality of group riding on shared roads.

"I have found that giving

"I have found that giving drivers a left-hand wave (and sometimes a smile) after passing me or our group safely, knowing that they have slowed or moved a little left to make a safe pass, makes for a positive gesture"

^^^^
This is such a significant thing that cyclists can start doing to increase the respect we get on the road. It shows you are aware of the driver and appreciate their giving you room. It is going to do so much more than any share the road sign. Just start waving at cars as they come past you, I guarantee it will start to change the perception that cyclists are a bunch of oblivious jerks.