2014 - Cowboy Cross

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- Bo Bickerstaff
- David Hunter
- Pedal Dancer
- Ryan Muncy

Cowboy Cross is a unique race that provides dirt obstacles in the Stadium Arena at the national western complex. after navigating the arena the racers wind their way towards the cow exit for some fresh air & then head back into the arena up some more stairs. This course is an inside & outside course! And there will be no goatheads on the outside part of the course.

It is being held in conjunction with VeloSwap. Subaru VeloSwap is the world’s largest consumer bicycling and sports expo that celebrates all things cycling. This cultural cycling event is a not-to-be-missed experience where you can feel the pulse of the cycling community and rub elbows with like-minded-cyclists. At the Subaru VeloSwap, you have the opportunity to see, swap, buy and sell your new or used bikes, components and cycling accessories. You can also take part in cycling clinics hosted by cycling celebrities and industry experts, family events, product sampling and the all-new EcoVillage.

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Saturday, October 18, 2014

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I hope the pics I've seen don

I hope the pics I've seen don't tell the whole story. Most of the time the idea of hosting a "unique" race along with a big event like Veloswap is to take advantage of the ready-made spectator pool, but from the looks of things, no one who came to Veloswap could be bothered to come watch the racing. I didn't see a single non-friend/family spectator in any of the pics, which is sad.

Managing a race

I wasn't at Cowboy Cross. I would like to have more info. Was the Men's C race really 94 ish riders? Was there any chip timing?

Just to be an officials advocate, anyone that has not scored a race (like this) by hand should refrain from commenting. Unless they are saying they will pay for chip timing.

What has been the regular practice of pulling riders or ending the about to be lapped riders ??

Men's C's

Yes, 93 riders in the C's on a very short course with limited passing in places.

In fairness, Head Ref announced during prerace instructions that many riders would end up getting pulled--he estimated about a third of the field. Like it or not, that was pretty accurate, so disappointment is totally understandable, but it shouldn't have been a surprise.

Not-So-Random thought: here

Not-So-Random thought: here's how to really grow 'cross here in CO... 1) combine a category or two such that we can have at least one, maybe two, less races for the day 2) plan MORE time between the remaining races, allowing for a folks to get two full laps of pre-ride AND time for the judges to score the previous race, BUT NO ONE pre-rides during the race, and 3) with all that extra scoring time, NO ONE gets pulled except in the elite races.

Racing in a 80-100 rider field wouldn't be nearly as bad an idea if you didn't think you'd get pulled within the first half of your race.

The proposal I made goes a

The proposal I made goes a bit further than the proposed category changes for next year. If you can't see a benefit in structuring the race schedule in such a way that racers don't have to worry about getting pulled less than halfway through their race (perhaps the number 1 complaint) then, well... not sure what to say to you...

racing v participating

Are we back to the racing v participating discussion again? I wish that BRAC would have done the new categories this year. We will have to wait to see if some this proposed changes will make a difference in a year.

I think that only the top fields should have the 80% rule enforced. Everyone else gets the full time some how.

I just looked back at the

I just looked back at the Cowboy Cross flyer. The categories ARE combined and there are no masters categories at all. There are 5 or 6 adult categories. They did exactly what you want and you found something to complain about. Congratulations!

I'm having fun, so suck it.

pulling

an overview:

Neither chips or OCR cameras, will ever be 100%.

So manual will always be needed, and manual is not easy to do for large fields - racers coming thru in a group means some numbers may not be manually recorded that lap. if that's when a problem began then it may be difficult to figure out.

Pulling:
(1) crits / cx
(2) track points race

(1) crits / cx:
(a) "80% rule"
Intent: prevent problems / lappers on TV with the winner as they finish
Actually: works

(b) "Pulling by judgement" (Which is kinda the 80% rule without a stopwatch)
Intent: let slower racers race longer
Actually: can allow unwanted situations to happen.

(c) "Pull when gap to field > a few seconds (and - usually - excluding a couple laps to get back on)"
See also: "No blood, no free lap"
Intent: helps to prevent spectators crossing the course from getting hit by OTB racers
Actually: works pretty good

(d) "Colorado":
Intent: let racers go at their own pace, score them equal laps, #laps down, etc. Only pull racers waay off the pace, and those a little ahead of leader when leader is finishing.
Actually: not easy to do! but it usually goes well in Colorado

(2) Track points races:

re: pulling:

While there is guidance on pulling (2 or more laps down), it is complicated by situations involving the winner may not be the leader (and thus also not having to complete the full distance to win), and situations related to "no mans land", when free laps can be taken and the exception to free laps as it relates to scoring, the number of racers in the race, all influence the decision to pull. It is also possible that a racer can enter the pit just outside of 1300m to go, have no possibility of re-entering, and be scored in the results. When their intent was to avoid going 2 laps down, get pulled and not placed.

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