2013 - Frostbite Time Trial

Submitted by David on


Photo Credit: Sportif Images

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Results
- http://www.coloradocycling.org/results/road#year=2013&eventId=1226&resul...

Location: North of Fort Collins at the Buckeye Exit off Interstate 25
Follow I-25 to exit 288. Follow the signs to parking. No parking on course.

On-line registration closes Wednesday, February 27th

Date: 

Saturday, March 2, 2013

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36 Comments

Biological Passport?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

Make Druggies that got caught have to maintain a Biological Passport for 5 years if they want to come back to racing. Blood tests 4 times a year to fill the Passport and then a few random and at race testing. All paid for by the Druggie!

Better re-check your results

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

According the website I am seeing, a 45+ Cat 4 had the fastest time of the entire day by a pretty comfortable margin. Not sure who this guy is but THAT'S an impressive ride by any measure. As far as the winner of the other category goes, he DID race a hard stage race last weekend and did NOT win the TT or any of the stages. Good training and racing makes a difference man!

I don't know the rider in

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

I don't know the rider in question, but from looking at his results on USACycling, seems he's a pretty darn good time trialist. He has raced as a "masters cat 4" for a few years, maybe it's time he race as a "masters cat 3". Seems the masters cat 4 fields become the ultimate sandbagger fields because you could race for years as a 4 and never be forced to upgrade, which seems to me would defeat the purpose of having a beginner masters field in the first place because the true newbies would be competing against much more seasoned racers instead of just other relative newbies.

Yes, elite/pro triathletes

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

Yes, elite/pro triathletes are really good athletes and can do very well in TTs. Although they will still get beat soundly by roadies at the same level of the sport.

Let them sandbag in the 3/4, I don't want them anywhere near me if they decide to do a 'normal' bike race.

Ed is a former Olympic Trials

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

Ed is a former Olympic Trials Speed Skater in his day from what a teammate of mine told me. Just getting into bike racing last year. There are awesome Time Trialists out there that don't do well in other races. Unfortunately, there is no CREDIT for Time Trials for upgrade points, which there should be. It is a true test of a cyclist. No drafting, no teammates helping. You against the clock and the fastest time wins and is the best cyclist for the day. This being the first race of the season here, a Cyclocross racer is just coming off racing season so already in great condition for this race. A serious triathlete can come in and kick some booty also since they basically train in Time Trial mode but since they don't race much in road bike races, they sit back in the lower cats and not earn enough points to move up. I don't know if USAC makes/allows a top level/pro triathlete to sign up for a one-day membership at higher cat levels. If not, they can dominate TTs or early season races in the lower cats. Perhaps someone with more knowledge knows more on this.

New USAC Rule

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

There was some talk a couple of years ago about establishing a separate ACA TT license category, however, when the USAC/BRAC thing happened, this could not happen. For this year, USAC has amended it's participation rule so that anyone can race up categories in time trials. Heck, the TT race flyers I've seen even mention this point specifically. So, technically, Ed and Cam could and probably should have raced P-1-2. Problem is the RMRC point system is out of sync with this new rule since these same TT/Tri/speed skating superstars cannot and absolutely should not race P-1-2 non-TT events. Oh well, it's not a perfect system and there'll always be sandbaggers but I'll just train harder and eventually BEAT them too!

Not that big a deal

Submitted by Jonah Adley (not verified) on

It's crap to lump Ed in with a doper and a couple of pro triathletes. I've raced against Ed and I know him well enough to chat at the races. He's a great TT rider, a friendly, considerate guy and he's not a sandbagger. I think he's only been racing for a year and pretty sporadically as I recall. He did a handful of mass start races last year and I don't think he got any results to speak of. Nevertheless, I expect he will upgrade shortly at which point he will destroy the Cat. 3 field as well. Also, I find it ironic that despite the constant complaints about how masters races suck riders away from the Cat. 3 field and the issues we have with attracting/maintaining racers that when a couple of fast triathletes show up there is total outrage. You live in Colorado. You can't spit without hitting an elite athlete. Some of them are going to show up and treat your sport as "cross training". That's the way it goes.

Great Ride Saturday

Submitted by Dejan (not verified) on

It was a good start to the 2013 Colorado road season and a great ride by EVERYONE...from the first rider off the line to the last rider finishing. The TT Saturday was a good gauge of winter fitness going into the racing season. All I can say about racing is this...if someone beat you, stop complaining...TRAIN HARDER, RACE SMARTER, and race with a heart of a lion. I can recommend several reputable coaches along the Front Range, but they can not teach you the drive. Congrats to all the winners Saturday.

You shouldn't worry about

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

You shouldn't worry about that at all. Any rider that left the start "early" would have had their time adjusted. Pretty easy to add 1 sec. or whatever was needed.

If you are talking about being more heavy handed like "False Start" = DQ, that isn't going to happen.

3E5 (b)
The rider shall be held at the start, but shall neither be
restrained nor pushed.

Why have cats for TTs?

Submitted by MIke (not verified) on

My understanding is that the cat system is a safety issue for pack riding. Separation by ability makes sense there to keep the rubber side down. But why bother for TT's? Unless you are cheating, pack riding should not be a factor in a TT. Why not start the fastest guy first, then release the riders after him in suitable intervals. The fastest guys wins, race of truth and all that. Is this more special snowflake-gold-star stuff? I don't get it.

That was something I'd

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

That was something I'd thought about, but the times for the rest of the 45+ 4s weren't that good and there wasn't that much time difference between the 45+ 4s and the Pro/I/II starts. I think we should give credit where credit is due. Ed rode a crazy fast TT.

Race Photo Stuff

Submitted by Dejan (not verified) on

I recently received some very constructive & welcomed feedback from a few racers regarding the TT photos I took during the TT...pertaining to the turnaround shots (ie riders not being in the aero position). I completely understand where you guys are coming from. When I go out and shoot a race, it is for a number of reasons: provide rider content, hired by the race promoter, hired by media for editorial content, shooting for commercial content, etc....But, I am always out there because I love the sport and have been involved as a racer for almost 30 years. Plus, I make a living as a photographer doing sports, events, corporate portraits, lifestyle, etc... When I shoot a bike race, it is always about the racer, the atmosphere, and "the race". I love shooting TT's because it is very graceful, artful, smooth, focused, predictable, and painful.

During Saturdays race, I tried to capture all the riders...I mean all, from riders warming up, to the first rider off the line for the season, to the last rider in. The number of photos for the day were a little limited as I was mentoring my brother on sports photography. The day before, I scoped out 4 shooing locations, including the turnaround point. The turnaround was part of the race, and the facial expressions are different at the turnaround point vs on the road. If I ignored the turnaround point, I felt I would be missing out on some unique opportunities and I would not be doing my job.

I am sorry if I could not get photos of all the riders, or in the desired scenario. But, the season just started, and I am very accommodating. If anyone has a particular shot they would like to have taken, you can email me at sportifimages@gmail.com or call me at 303-956-2270.

Thanks! Dejan

I hope people aren't giving you grief because their picture...

Submitted by Chronic Complainer (not verified) on

...wasn't published or that (heaven forbid) you took unflattering pictures?

I know you're trying to be nice but I'll say it... Seriously peoplez?

I demand that from this day forward ALL 9,000 pictures you take and upload on your time/dime be one or more of the following:

*side/profile so I can gloat over my awesome aero positioning
*front view only so you can see my INTENSE concentration/facial expressions
*photo-chopped so that I look 20# lighter

I also require that a sign be placed ahead of your shooting location so that I can rehearse my expression/position. That way my teammates can wonder how I finished in 97th place with that awesome positioning and extreme effort.

As a fairly new race director

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on

As a fairly new race director/promoter, I'm not shocked at people complaining about not having access to reasonably priced/cheap/more often free access to the best shots.

It's sad really.

We actually received a comment regarding a recent race we put on from a racer after posting (and clearly stating that they were preliminary) preliminary results soon after the race that was: "I am disappointed to pull up the results this morning (the sunday morning after the Saturday race) and see my name is not there. I am worked over and my wife is questioning what I spend my time doing. It's important for me to be recognized for my efforts. I appreciate that you update it as soon as possible."

It's sad to me, both as racer and a race director, that people:
1. Complain about free/nearly free content
2. Need outside pics of a local tt to validate themselves
3. Are pissed with race entry fees when they pay them
4. Need to display their results to confirm that they finished 25th place out of 70 in a small, 100 person field, at a relatively obscure event in the middle of winter

Instead of blaming those that spend countless hours building a better experience for everyone, perhaps you should look at yourself and reevaluate why you do what you do.

Dejan, keep doing what you're doing. Great job.

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