Is there a start list posted on the DBC site? Nice to see who you are going to be racing against.
Also, great to have Pro-1-2 start list with bib numbers posted on Saturday, so you can follow the race/racers on Sunday. (good idea for all races that are trying to get fans involved.)
That sucks. The racing will definitely be downgraded if good pro riders can't race. One of the great things about racing p12 in CO is the challenge of racing solid pros. I hope this gets sorted out.
The ACA needs to step up and fight for its riders and race promoters. If USA Cycling and the ACA can't work this out, maybe it's time to get rid of the ACA or for promoters to start permitting their races through USCF. Then at least the local pros who ride for Continental-registered teams (Kelly, Garmin's U-23, Jelly Belly, Kenda, V Australia, etc.) could race w/o fear of suspension or fines. Pro-Conti and Pro-Tour teams would still be a separate issue.
I just checked with an old friend who works deep inside one of these governing organizations. He said that neither group has the desire, plans,or resources to bird-dog this issue.
From what I read this is a UCI issue, not USAC (have not bene called USCF in a while). This is also why all the pros do every ACA race on a one day license, they cannot have ACA licenses.
The UCI is a bunch of fat, euro centric, morons who come up with rules like this, with rules that shafted cross seriers in the north east, and othe dumb rules effecting us in the US. That beign said USAC needs to push back harder against the UCI to get rules that work for the US, a very different situation than in Europe.
Outside of that I do think it is time for the ACA to go back to USAC, but that is a whole other discussion (feel free to tell me what a moron I am for thinking that :-). If we did that this issue would go away in CO.
It's a UCI rule, but a USAC enforcement issue. UCI Rule 1.2.019 reads: "A national federation may grant special exceptions for races or particular events run in its own country." USAC has granted exceptions for the ACA and Oregon's OBRA in the past. Google "UCI Rule 1.2.019" and you'll find Cyclingnews articles and quotes from USAC's previous president on this issue. So, yeah, it's a UCI rule, but it is a USAC issue. Seems to me that all that needs to happen for the pros to race ACA races is for USAC to grant an exception for ACA races. Pretty simple. They've done it before, so why the sudden policy change without any explanation?
promotors aren't forced to use the ACA. If USA Cycling was so good and if they marketed strongly (or any) to Colorado promotors then maybe a shift would start. But from what I can tell USA Cycling is spending about 2 minutes out of every year to try and break into Colorado road cycling.
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Mead Roubaix Start List
Submitted by David on
We are sure we are missing riders in this poll but we got the current list of registered riders and chose from that.
Points: 3
Start List Posted?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Is there a start list posted on the DBC site? Nice to see who you are going to be racing against.
Also, great to have Pro-1-2 start list with bib numbers posted on Saturday, so you can follow the race/racers on Sunday. (good idea for all races that are trying to get fans involved.)
Points: 3
Can't see start lists on signup 365
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I don't think Signup365 supports this feature as a registration provider.
DBC events uses this registration provider for all their events.
Points: 2
Start List
Submitted by Deirdre - DBC Events (not verified) on
Lists will be posted on Saturday AM on dbcevents.com
And no, Signup365 does not offer that function.
Points: 2
Signup 365 doesn't offer a list of registered racers??
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Bike Reg, Pre-Race, MadSync, and Sports Base all offer that.
Well I guess Active.com doesn't offer it either.
Points: 3
World class time trialist
Submitted by Eli (not verified) on
World class time trialist winning a Roubaix Race? Sounds like the plan for Sunday, in Mead and France :)
Points: 3
Summerhill Can't race thanks to the UCI
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
According to the UCI they are going to start cracking down on pro riders riding non-USAC sanctioned events. Looks like the Fire Power in ACA races just got taken down a notch
http://www.podiuminsight.com/2011/04/07/uci-rules-crackdown-no-non-usac-...
Points: 1
Really uci?
Submitted by Campie (not verified) on
That sucks. The racing will definitely be downgraded if good pro riders can't race. One of the great things about racing p12 in CO is the challenge of racing solid pros. I hope this gets sorted out.
Points: 2
They tried that a few years
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
They tried that a few years ago until somebody threatened a lawsuit against them. Something about American AntiTrust laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law
Time to take down the UCI!
Points: 2
The ACA needs to step up and
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
The ACA needs to step up and fight for its riders and race promoters. If USA Cycling and the ACA can't work this out, maybe it's time to get rid of the ACA or for promoters to start permitting their races through USCF. Then at least the local pros who ride for Continental-registered teams (Kelly, Garmin's U-23, Jelly Belly, Kenda, V Australia, etc.) could race w/o fear of suspension or fines. Pro-Conti and Pro-Tour teams would still be a separate issue.
Points: 2
UCI/USAC-NOT going to monitor pros in non sanctioned races
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I just checked with an old friend who works deep inside one of these governing organizations. He said that neither group has the desire, plans,or resources to bird-dog this issue.
Points: 2
From what I read this is a
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
From what I read this is a UCI issue, not USAC (have not bene called USCF in a while). This is also why all the pros do every ACA race on a one day license, they cannot have ACA licenses.
The UCI is a bunch of fat, euro centric, morons who come up with rules like this, with rules that shafted cross seriers in the north east, and othe dumb rules effecting us in the US. That beign said USAC needs to push back harder against the UCI to get rules that work for the US, a very different situation than in Europe.
Outside of that I do think it is time for the ACA to go back to USAC, but that is a whole other discussion (feel free to tell me what a moron I am for thinking that :-). If we did that this issue would go away in CO.
Points: 2
It's a UCI rule, but a USAC
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
It's a UCI rule, but a USAC enforcement issue. UCI Rule 1.2.019 reads: "A national federation may grant special exceptions for races or particular events run in its own country." USAC has granted exceptions for the ACA and Oregon's OBRA in the past. Google "UCI Rule 1.2.019" and you'll find Cyclingnews articles and quotes from USAC's previous president on this issue. So, yeah, it's a UCI rule, but it is a USAC issue. Seems to me that all that needs to happen for the pros to race ACA races is for USAC to grant an exception for ACA races. Pretty simple. They've done it before, so why the sudden policy change without any explanation?
Points: 2
Maybe it is time for USA Cycling to stand up
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
promotors aren't forced to use the ACA. If USA Cycling was so good and if they marketed strongly (or any) to Colorado promotors then maybe a shift would start. But from what I can tell USA Cycling is spending about 2 minutes out of every year to try and break into Colorado road cycling.
Points: 2