2011 - ACA Colorado Cross Cup

ACA - COLORADO CROSS CUP

Last year was the first year for the Colorado Cross Cup (CCC). It replaced the Best Cyclocross Racer and Best Cyclocross Team competition. There was quite a bit of talk the end of last season about potential changes to the CCC for 2011. The changes have just been release and here are a few of the note worthy changes.

Changes for 2011

  • Call-up procedures for non-CCC races will be done by results on crossresults.com
  • Start times have slightly changed from last year.
  • New categories have been added. The big one is the Mens 35+/3s which will start right after the Mens 35 Open.

2011 Colorado Cross Cup Policy

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It's my impression that most

It's my impression that most of the elite racers get it, but I'm thinking many of the 3s don't get it at all... if you don't cater to the masters categories, there won't be any 3s category as there won't be enough revenue to even put on the event. Complain about the 35+ cat 4s and 35+ cat 3s and 45+ cat 4s, but they pay the bills and without them there would be very few races.

The bills got paid

The bills got paid for years before these categories existed. This all started because older Cat 4's blamed younger Cat 4's for crashes and wanted a "safer" group for dads, etc. Now we keep hearing all these lame excuses about how there is too much sandbagging so we need 35+3s, 35+ open is too hard, Cat3 is too young, blah blah blah. Everything works fine in other regions without all of this nonsense, as it did hear 10 years ago before all of the excuse making and blaming started. It's this pathetic attitude that we have to pander to lower cat masters that is slowly killing the racing in Colorado. So many arguments about field size, etc. Now we have all of these groups, and look at the attendance this year. Lame.

So the 35+4 and 4s should

So the 35+4 and 4s should never have been split? That would be a big group. Portland has master b's, c's and MABRA has Masters 3/4. These regions are both cx hot beds just like Colorado has traditionally been.

The cross season hasn't even started yet, can we wait a bit longer before complaining about attendance.

35+3

Hey fellow racer, please keep the name calling to a minimum. We are all here to enjoy racing our bikes. The 35+3 field is a gateway for those racers to build speed, strength, and confidence for the open 35+ and 45+ fields, which carry many X pro and cat 1/2 racers. As far as your medal for everyone concept is concerned, the medals only go three deep in the 35+3 field. Pay outs often go six deep for the elite 3's and sometimes 20 deep for the pro 1/2's. Furthermore, USAC's cat 5 groups only have to complete ten races to upgrade to a cat 4. In California this can be done in three weeks of practice crits held in January, which is a far cry from an additional season of racing!

Again, I don't mind your opinion, but please keep the name calling to yourself!!!!

USAC rules and cat 5

All of the categories and policies have nothing to do with ACA vs USAC. The race determines the schedule not the governing body and if ACA was a Local Association it would be working with the promoters to set the state policies just like it does now. For a race to be part of the Colorado Cup it must follow the schedule, call-up procedure, chip timing requirements, etc. If a race promoter does not follow those requirements they don’t have to be part of the Colorado Cup but still can be fully permitted and supported by the ACA. The standard schedule in cross has been very successful for many years and is determined every year by the race promoters and interested people that want to put in the effort to do it. There is nothing to prevent a USAC race from having a SM 35+ Cat 3 race or any other of the race categories. USAC also panders to its large 30+ demographic, see last year when they made master racers exempt from some of the UCI aero bike rules.

Regarding Cat 5. To upgrade out all a racer has to do is start 10 races you don’t even need to finish. A cat 5 race has a field limit of 50 and from what I understand from technical updates from USAC that is very strict and can’t go over. So that would mean a race would have to set up slot in the race day for a category with a limited number of racers. Cat 5s can be combined with Cat 4s and the field limit is supposed to be 75 for any race with that allows a cat 5, but that must not be as strict looking at races like Iron Horse that have well over 100 finishers in the 18-34 cat 4/5 race. So I don’t see how a Category 5 solves any problem as the vast majority of races would not want a cat 5 only race unless they eliminate another race like a women or junior field.

Along with Cat 5 some of the the only rule difference between ACA and USAC is that lapped riders in a crit cannot win primes in USAC (something I can’t remember seeing happen in ACA race anyway), and junior gear restrictions. What junior gear restrictions means is a different topic, but it does require an added roll at ALL races for somebody. A junior racing in a senior category is still subject to a roll out.

Like many ACA officials I also have a USAC official license.

I should have thought of that

I forgot, since the 35+ cat4 is the biggest field, we should do everything possible to appease them. We all know the number one complaint of this group is field size, and a close second is sandbagging, therefore we should create as many new categories as possible to make the guys who are getting 20th-80th place happy... A trophy for everyone!

It matters because

Other categories are now being shortened and the race day is longer to create yet another unneeded category. As joe racer I think it is lame that some races are now shorter so that a 35+ cat 3 rider can now choose between 3 categories (35+, cat3, 35+cat3). Where does it end? 38-39 cat3 with 2 kids and a job, and we all get to race for 10 minutes. Lame. I have yet to hear a good argument for the existence of this category.

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